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Hate Unity?

Many people, including us, are of the opinion that Unity is a big step back for Ubuntu. Gnome 3 isn’t much better. People are messing around, trying to make these work like good old Gnome 2, but, while we commend their efforts, it’s just not as good as the real thing. Maybe it will be one day, but until then, don’t struggle; just use Gnome 2!

Ubuntu Satanic Edition offers you the pinnacle of Gnome 2 development, with extra dark themes and a ton of heavy music to keep your ears and neck busy while your eyes enjoy the desktop. Here’s our new motto…

Forget Unity, use Ubuntu Satanic Edition!

Download the CD or DVD here!

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37 Responses to “Hate Unity?”

  1. Denis Bergeron Says:

    What about a version for Mint where every Ubuntu user are going anyway ?

  2. Garry Says:

    Mint uses Gnome 3. Its extensions go some way to emulating what came before but it is still lacking many of the features and eye candy of Gnome 2.

  3. Andreas Says:

    I do not like all this thing about satan.
    I believe in Jesus, because he is the only way to God. He is the only one who can forgive sins, because he suffered for our sins on the cross. He suffered the punishment we should have suffered.
    Of course, every one is free to believe what he or she wants to believe, but many bad things have happened because people were worshipping the devil. Please be careful about that.

    By the way, there are many informations about our Redeemer on the net, for example http://knowinggod.jesus.net/
    If you have time, please look at it. I do not want to critizise you but to help you.

  4. Andreas Says:

    Please listen to me because I want the best for you:

    I believe satan really exists and he wants the worst for you:
    He wants to bring you away from God which would mean your death.
    Only God can give eternal life.

    IN THE END, SATAN WILL BE HURLED:
    The great dragon was hurled down- that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
    – Book of Revelation 12,9

    BUT FOR YOU IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO COME BACK TO GOD -
    BELIEVE IN JESUS AND YOU WILL LIVE:
    He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
    – 1Joh 5,12

    JESUS WON AGAINST THE DEVIL: Matthew 4,1-11.
    JESUS FORGIVES OUR SINS SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO GOD: Rom 3,21-31

    Rom 3,22-24:
    There is no difference,
    23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
    24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

    ************************
    There are many informations about Jesus on the net, for example
    http://knowinggod.jesus.net/

    If you have time, please look at it. I really want to help you.

  5. mike3point2 Says:

    I don’t like Unity at all so thanks for making a distro without it. For some reason turning it off is very buggy and i have had very little success getting ubu to work correctly afterwards. However, these distros always work properly and look great.

  6. Garry Says:

    Thanks mike3point2!

    I just think Unity was a step too far. It forgoes much of the functionality which they had before. I’m sure it will catch up one day, but until then we will stick with Gnome 2.

  7. Goyo Says:

    Damn! Sticking with gnome 2 is too much evil even for me. Maybe I’ll have to go and talk to that Jesus, even if I don’t feel much appealed by the perspective of living forever –something like 666 years would be more than enough.

    Andreas which do you think is a better way to god, unity or gnome shell? I looked for the answer in the book of revelation without success.

  8. librarian,theblind Says:

    ubuntu + metal

    WAY BETTER!

  9. orchideo Says:

    Hi!
    For the 12.04 LTS, my advice is to switch to Xubuntu. See for example this beautiful Xubuntu-based French distro:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4fOcCzFRU94#!

  10. Andreas Says:

    Goyo, please think about my words.
    Hell is the worst place you can imagine; Jesus is my hope.
    And he also wants to live with you.

    “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in…” —Revelation 3,20

    Beside from that, I use LXDE because it’s faster.

  11. Nate Says:

    Garry,

    Just wanted to stop by and congratulate you on all the success you’ve so far achieved for this great distro – and flying the flag in the face of “the man” in the true spirit of Linux. Sticking to your belief in this distribution rather than cave in to external opinion just shows your dedication :)

    I’ve been using Ubuntu SE as my primary distro only for a few months but have had no reason to complain or think about switching – Personally I think pin-holing new releases to gnome3/unity is a dangerous path and KDE is not to my taste, so I agree that sticking with Gnome2 is the best alternative at least for now…

    On a side note – Andreas, I’m not sure why you think anybody here (or anywhere in the multiverse, yes, M-theory – you can check it out) values your opinion on religion (or anything non-Linux based), just as mine is irrelevant, unfortunately (for you) so is yours. I couldn’t care who you fear or love, the most offensive thing about what you’ve said to me is the fact that you wasted about 20 seconds of my life skimming over your posts.

    So please, take your own advice and “listen to my words” here – Use your words appropriately, because one day when your “god” kills you (because, he loves you, obviously), you won’t be able to post any more inane rubbish on a Linux distribution website.

    P.S. Love your work Garry, keep it up :)

  12. Garry Says:

    Thanks, Nate!

  13. Fitoschido Says:

    Interesting point, but I like Unity. I only download Ubuntu SE for the music included :P

  14. Andreas Says:

    Nate, I really didn’t want to attack you or anybody else here or waste your time, but I believe that people should be careful about satan. It’s serious, many bad things have happened because people were using the name of the devil.
    And I really worry that somebody here might decide against God’s grace.

  15. M Says:

    Andreas:
    Ever heard about freedom of religion?
    Ever read Satan Bible (even if it is as recognized here as Unity).
    No, how can you talk about something you don’t know?

  16. Andreas Says:

    I’m just afraid of the devil and I love God, that’s all.

    I asked Wikipedia about this satanic bible and I read there:
    - Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!

    Do you really want to believe that? What would it say about human beings? Just another animal… Horrible if that was true.

    - Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

    Satan is taken from the bible and the bible says only God can give real life!
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
    – Jesus in John 10,10

  17. gtriderxc Says:

    Andreas:
    “So what if you can see the darkest side of me?
    No one will ever change this animal I have become
    Help me believe it’s not the real me
    Somebody help me tame this animal
    (This animal, this animal)

    I can’t escape myself
    (I can’t escape myself)
    So many times i’ve lied
    (So many times i’ve lied)
    But there’s still rage inside
    Somebody get me through this nightmare
    I can’t control myself

    So what if you can see the darkest side of me?
    No one will ever change this animal I have become
    Help me believe it’s not the real me
    Somebody help me tame this animal I have become
    Help me believe it’s not the real me
    Somebody help me tame this animal

    Somebody help me through this nightmare
    I can’t control myself
    Somebody wake me from this nightmare
    I can’t escape this hell”

  18. shaunehunter Says:

    Gnome 2 is dead and it wasn’t that good to begin with, make the leap, you might learn something new.

    Why not focus on the KDE 4 themes you alredy have? I think that would be the most sensible course of action for this project in light of your opinion of Unity and Gnome 3. I do belive that Gnome 3 will become superior to version 2 subsequent releases just as KDE 4 has after it’s rocky start.

    I can’t stess enough that Gnome 2 stunk and people just like it because they’re resistant to change.

  19. Andreas Says:

    gtriderxc:
    Some people really feel like an animal and only follow their instincts. But that’s not what we should be. We can’t change ourselves. But there’s a way out of all the mess: Jesus.

    We are created to live in community with God but:
    God is holy (without any sin), humans are sinners. Because of our sins ( = our failures, our dept), we can’t come to God and have to go to hell (that’s a place without God.). It’s like we can’t go into a house with dirty shoes. God and sin don’t fit together. And God can’t simply put our sins away because he is righteous. (If you are in court because of robbery you also don’t get free because of some good actions in your life.)

    10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
    12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
    – Rom 3,10-12

    For the wages of sin is death. — Rom 6,23a

    But God also loves us, so he found a way:
    Jesus died this death for us; he paid for our sins. So we can come to God and have eternal life after our death.

    In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace — Eph 1,7

    …but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. — Rom 6,23b

    But God doesn’t force us. We can decide for him or against him, we can decide for heaven or for hell.

    If we believe in Jesus and give him our lifes, our sins are forgiven and we will live.
    He’s always there, we only have to say:
    Jesus, please come into my life, forgive all my sins…

    It’s wonderful to receive Gods forgivness!

    Jesus can change the animal inside us!!

  20. Garry Says:

    @shaunehunter

    I know where you’re coming from, but I insist that I am not resistant to change. I also know where the Unity and Gnome 3 desktops are headed. I have Windows 7 PC at work and I have the task bar down the left. It’s very Unity like but, and I hate to say it, it works much better.

    I have really tried to leap to both Unity and Gnome 3 in the past. But the way I use a PC neither of them can cut it with Gnome 2. I’m sure they’ll get there in the end, but they’re not there yet.

  21. M Says:

    Andres: And, what makes one book better, then the other? I just displayed you other option. Btw, do you hate figs?

  22. shaunehunter Says:

    @Gary

    How about focusing on your KDE themes? It would be appreciated.

  23. Andreas Says:

    M:
    The Bible says that it is the revelation of God:

    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
    – 2Tim 3:16

    All predictions of the prophets in the Old Testament have become true or will probably become true soon which is proves that the Bible says the truth.
    One example: Israel has become a nation again in 1948.

    And: The Bible has many ethical aspects (charity etc) which are good for the coexistence of humans.
    The Satanic Bible doesn’t have them (in the opposite, if people lived like described in the Satanic Bible, this would be very bad for our society). We need people who don’t put themselves first!

    And refering to your question: I don’t hate figs.

  24. M Says:

    If you come to the old testament, just remember that the majority of the old testament fans do not recognize the new one. Even if old testament is a good work, what makes a fanfic written thousand years later to be so special?

  25. Andreas Says:

    M:

    In the old testament, there are many references to things that happened later (as described in the new testament):

    e.g.:

    Isaiah 7:14:
    Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

    Christians believe that Jesus is meant with these words (Immanuel means translated ‘God with us’ and mustn’t be understood as ‘real’ name but as description who this child will be).

    Isaiah 53:5:
    But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    This text references to Jesus and his death on the cross which can take away all our sins – because Jesus suffered the punishment we should have suffered for them (we only have to accept it and admit our sins before God – before that, there is no forgiveness!).

    In the new testament are also many references to the old testament; in the gospel of Matthew you can often read that Jesus did things to fulfill predictions of the old testament.

    So we can see: Old and new testament form a whole. There are no contradictions (if you read them faithfully, searching the truth).

    And: Many people read the new testament (or at least parts of it) and after that, their life changed completely. Drug addicts got away from drugs,
    sad people got away from their sadness,
    because they read it and began a new life with God.

  26. Henri Says:

    I like Unity now with the U12.04 LTS release, it is more stable and intuitive. But I don’t use it tho, it compromise too much of my hardware resources…

    Keep up with the good job man!

    PS:

    Man, those ppl like Andreas are f*cking annoying. Dude, no one here is interested in your crazy/psychopathic God.

  27. M Says:

    Andreas:
    Again, what makes it so special. Don’t answer with the quotes from the same source, as… it causes recursion like “it is good, because it is said there”.
    As for the people reading it and it having a positive effect, i know many people, who started reading (in general) and it changed their lives. Thus i agree, that reading changes their life. You read, what i write here – it changes several minutes of your life.
    And well, if you will follow my advice and go on a vacation for 2 weeks – wow i’ve changed 14 days of your life – great ain’t it?
    As for drug addicts getting away from drugs – i know paganism helping people refuse drugs. Once again, not convincing. I can point you to a person, who stopped doing drugs after learning how to mastrubate, shall we call mastrubation sacred then?

  28. M Says:

    PS. Happy Samhain

  29. Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl Says:

    Andreas, what’s your opinion on Leviticus 24:16 ?
    Mine is “If God is real and he really ordered that, fuck him”.
    So all you can do is turn me from not believing in him to hating and despising him. Which one do you like better ?

  30. Andreas Says:

    @M:

    There are things that can change the life of a person for a few days, months or years.
    But there is no book except the Bible that can change the complete life of a person – every single day until he/she dies. Your advice could only change two weeks of my life!

    @Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl:

    Three things I want to say at this point:
    1. Leviticus 24,16 is one sentence of the whole bible which doesn’t which isn’t applicable anymore as it belongs to the Old Convenant.
    2. I don’t believe that many people were sentenced to death because of this Bible verse.
    3. It is never valid to cite one sentence of a speech and to establish an opinion because of this one sentence.
    And: There are thousands of verses in the Bible which are easy to understand and also approved by Non-Christians. So one verse isn’t a really good argument to say the whole Bible is completely wrong.

    Nevertheless, I’m sure this text made sense at the time it was written (please read the whole chapter!). I’m actually not an expert on Bible interpretation and I still haven’t read this text and thought about it, but maybe I can write some usefull sentences. Please give me two or three days to read the text thorough and maybe ask some Christians I know and then I will maybe/hopefully come to a conclusion.

  31. Andreas Says:

    @Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl:
    I can answer your question now (I had a talk with my religion teacher and she told me how she understands this text. I can agree with her opinion because it really makes sense).
    Here is what I found out (there are also own thoughts in this text, so I did not simply adopt her point of view):

    1. God has the right to punish people who do not obey his laws (especially those who blaspheme his name). He does not punish people because he wants to hurt them but because he wants to prevent them from making destructive and destroying things. Parents also make rules to protect their children from potential dangers and they also have to punish them in case they do not obey their rules. Laws without consequences in case you perpetrate them do not make sense.
    But why is blasphemy now a problem?
    Imagine someone said to me “Andreas!” in a very inpolite way. Would that be ok? Would not I think that this person wants argue with me or to intimidate me? It would definitely harm the relationship between this person and me.
    And it is the same with God. But it is not only that. God is the creator of the earth and of every single human being. We have to obey him. We do not have the right to treat God in this way. And God has the right to resist. He does not have to put up with everything we do.
    And it would also be very dangerous if he did. A God who does not punish sins is a very powerless God! And if God did not fight agains the evil, who else should do it? The world would already have collapsed if God had stopped fighting against the evil.
    So the conclusion is: God has the right to punish people in case they do not obey his laws! And he has to do it in order to cater for justice.

    2. Now you could ask: Why had this punishment to be so cruel?
    Well, let me give you an example. Imagine you are a police officer and you have to arrest a drug baron. Would it work if you asked him kindly to drop his gun? No, you would also have to use other methods.
    God also had to use such methods to fight back when someone offended him. Especially in the time the text was written, the death penalty was common (not that I support the death penalty). People were not the same as today. Just telling them to stop defaming his name would not have worked. God had to use other methods than nowadays which included physically punishment.
    Does that mean that God is bad if he judges people? No, definitely not. If the police officer shot the drug lord as an act of selve-defense, nobody would say that the police officer is cruel and murdered a harmless person.

    But although God is right, there is still one important aspect:

    3. The penalty had to discourage people. That is the reason why it was not executed very often. And when it was executed, the defendant usually had a fair process because every accusation had to be approved by two or three witnesses (according to Deuteronomium 17:6: At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.).

    4. Last but not least, this form of punishment is not applicable anymore. Since Jesus died on the cross for our sins, we are reconciled with God. (Romans 5:10: For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.)
    The relationship between humans and God can be restored again. But therefore we have to believe in Jesus! (John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.)

    So we can say: God has two characteristics: He is a loving God (1. John 4:8), but he is also righteous which means he has to make laws and to punish people who do not obey his laws.
    That is also the reason why God could not simply forgive our sins. Jesus had to suffer the punishment we would have deserved. So therefore we can be forgiven if we believe in Jesus. And whoever believes in Jesus does not have to face the last Last Judgement.

  32. ShadowKyogre Says:

    Have you heard of MATE yet? It’s a fork of GNOME 2 so that way its development is continued.

    Link: http://mate-desktop.org/

  33. M Says:

    ShadowKyogre: Yep. Using it with linux mint.
    Also less glances from the Spanish inquisition, not that i was expecting them.

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  35. MrSinister Says:

    Satanic Mate… Hmmm, sounds interesting. And once againg – fuck unity.

  36. Hoelli Says:

    Satanic Mate ;o) After installed linux mint 14 cinnamon the desktop looks boring. So I used the QuickInstall, changed the background to SE Bathory, installed the theme Clearlooks-Phenix and the mousepointer DMZ-Red, choosed the symboltheme Revenge and GTK+-theme SatanicAdwaita. Now the desktop looks very pretty. The splashscreen was replaced by the satanic-logo. Thanx for the great work of Ubuntu SE.

  37. Wolfgang Says:

    Thanks for this kickass distro!! I’ve not used it since it was based on 9.10 but alas, an update! Whoot! I guess I should join the Christian-vs-Satanism -comment-war here, but seeing as I’m pagan, I’m just gon say thanks for putting the pentagram the right way round for Satanism. And the screamo, GNOME2, and producing a distro that works on my prehistoric laptop! ^_^

    See y’all in Hell I guess! :D